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Dr. Fauci’s released records hold 2 diary entries and 3 emails filed under Thursday, May 21, 2020, drawn from 2 packages (Tony's Diary Package, Reading Room). 6,765 words in total, reproduced below exactly as released. The diary text appears on pp. 61–62 of 2026.07.24_Tonys-Diary-Package.pdf.

Anthony S. Faucidiary entry
Global 234,100 – new 24,200; deaths 9800 Italy 3,400 deaths, now surpassed China USA – 19,300; new 5300; deaths 272 (73 new) At task force meeting I stressed the problem about the PPEs being diverting to testing as opposed to HCWs. I also emphasized this strongly at the subsequent press conference. Again, we met with POTUS after the TF meeting and in preparation for the presser. Very good press conference. Big front page article abut me appeared in the Washington Post. Very flattering. The situation with my national and international fame is explosive and really unimaginable. It is not hyoperbole to say that today I am the most famous and talked about person in the country and one of the most recognizable peson in the world. Countless profiles on me in multiple media. I cannot even read all the things that are written abuyt me since I am so busy….seriously. POTUS seems to be enamored of me even though I am taking the spotlight away from him. We are developing a very unique and interesting relationship. The entire secret service corps is coming over to me and chatting. They let me into the first gate without even checking ID. Everyone is worried about my health and welfare, probably because it is all over the place that I am almost 80 years old. PRESS: WH press conference picked up by many outlets. Many print profiles and features on me. Ridiculous – too numeous to count!
Tony's Diary Packagepp. 61–622026.07.24_Tonys-Diary-Package.pdf
Anthony S. Faucidiary entry
Global – 4,800,000/320,000; USA – 1,600,000/94,000 Will start doing print interviews in earnest today starting with Denise Grady and Noah Weiland of NY Times. Also, spoke with Sanjay Gupta explaining the Moderna data. Interesting that despitr Alyssa’s promise, they still have not cleared me for Jim Sciutto. However, I was cleared to do the CNN Town Hall. Cartoon in USA Today: https://bit.ly/3bQDXVt My instgram interview with Julia Roberts: https://people.com/movies/julia-robertscute-reaction-speaking-dr-anthony-fauci/ Did a Zoom interview and town hall under Boomberg/Harvard moderated by Mayor Michael Boomberg with 190 Mayors of various cities throughout the country PRESS: CNN Town Hall with Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta
Tony's Diary Packagep. 1862026.07.24_Tonys-Diary-Package.pdf
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RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06Thu, 21 May 2020 17:49:51 -0400Full thread
Erik Stemmy
Hi Ashley, Since we’ll only have a short time on Tuesday I thought it might be helpful to provide the agent my responses to the original questions. There may be some misunderstanding of gain-of-function experiments, so hopefully this will clarify some things or at least provide a framework for our discussion next week. Thanks! Erik p.s. I’ve also pasted the response directly below in case there is an issue adding an attachment to an encrypted message. SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) Both SF 424s seem to be describing “gain of function” experiments. On page 192 of SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) under P3CO Research, it indicates they are conducting gain of function of SARSr-CoV. The funding pause on gain-of-function (GoF) experiments was in place from 2014-2017, and explicitly involved work reasonably anticipated to enhance the transmissibility or pathogenicity of influenza, MERS-CoV, or SARS-CoV. As such, that policy would not have applied to SARS-related coronaviruses (SARSr-CoV). The replacement policy, Potential Pandemic Pathogen Care and Oversight (P3CO), requires additional review and oversight of experiments that are anticipated to increase a potential pandemic pathogen’s transmissibility or pathogenicity in humans. The viruses created under this award are chimeric bat viruses, which generally would not be anticipated to cause enhanced disease or transmission in people. When evaluating experiments for potential GoF or P3CO we determine the likelihood of altering one of these attributes compared to the wild-type or circulating viral strain. Were they also conducting Seemless Cloining and Assembly? From a review of their experimental details, it looks as if they were generating recombinant DNA of the viruses using WIV1 as the backbone but I could not determine if they were using Seemless Cloning techniques. I’m not aware of them using seamless cloning. Standard techniques for investigators in this field are to create cDNA molecular clones, which are then expressed in cull culture. I could not determine exactly where they were conducting these gain of function experiments. I know UNC-Chapel Hill has done these but within the document, I could not determine where this was occurring. Do you know where this was occurring? GoF experiments were not conducted as part of this award. While chimeric viruses were created via this award, they would not be considered GoF since the results did not confer attributes that were not already exhibited by the wild type versions of the viruses. For example, expressing the spike protein of SARS-CoV in the WIV-1 backbone did not increase the pathogenicity of WIV-1 beyond that of SARS-CoV. This award did not support work to manipulate CoV genomes or create chimeric viruses at Wuhan Institute of Virology; such work was performed at UNC-CH. It then appears that the recombinant DNA of the virus was then injected into humanized mice. However, again I couldn’t determine where this occurred or was to occur. On page 187 of the same SF 424 under “Vertebrate Animals” it indicates that work with vertebrate animals will be conducted at Wuhan University at the School of Medicine and UNC – CH. Then under “Laboratory Mice” it states that lab mice will be sourced commercially by Wuhan Center for Animal Experiment at Wuhan University and that humanized mice will be bread at University of Wuhan and UNC – CH. Furthermore, the mice will be inoculated with the virus. Recombinant viral cDNA is not directly injected into humanized mice. Rather, these molecular clones are used to grow virus in culture to create an inoculum used in infectivity studies. Both WIV and UNC-CH performed studies with molecular clones, which included infecting mice with the resulting recombinant viruses. Under “UNC Facilities where selected agents to be used” it continues with all mouse studies at UNC-CH will be performed….” However, on page 200 of the same SF 424 there is a letter from UNC – CH stating “The work to be performed by UNC-CH does not include animal and/or human research subjects.” I know that was a lot of information but where exactly was the experimentation of injecting the humanized mice with the recombinant DNA occurring? I believe this to be a typographical error on the part of UNC’s business office. The application describes animal work at UNC. Budget justifications and the consortium agreement also include references to this work. I believe UNC mean to say that the work “… does not include human research subjects.” SF 424 AI110964-01 (received date 06/05/2013) In this SF 424 Aim 3 seems indicative of gain of function experimentation (C3a and C3b) although it does not use that exact term. The receipt date of this application was June of 2013, and the term “gain-of-function” was not widely used before the USG funding pause was announced in 2014. C3a and C3b describe work using pseudovirus assays, which would not have been considered GoF as they do not involve creating full replicating viruses. On page 119 of AI110964-01 under “C3d) Humanized mouse in vivo infection experiments” it states that humanized mouse in vivo experiments in humanized mice was occurring at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I did not see the location where these gain of function experiments were being done but if the injections were occurring at WIV then was the recombinant DNA also generated at WIV? Was Seemless Cloning also being done? This is not GoF work. The humanized mouse experiments described in C3d refer to work with wild type viruses isolated from wild bats. Refer to the section stating: “We will passage isolated bat-CoVs in permissive cells twice…” This is a standard virological technique to create an inoculum to infect animals. In no portion of C3d do they describe any manipulation of isolated virus, therefore this does not describe any kind of gain-of-function studies, nor does it involve the creation of any recombinant DNA or viruses. Characterization of naturally occurring viruses was explicitly excluded from the GoF policy. Further, the USG P3CO Policy Guidance states that “Wild-type pathogens that are circulating in or have been recovered from nature are not enhanced PPPs, regardless of their pandemic potential.” RPPR (AI110964-05) Finally, in the RPPR (6/1/2017-5/31/2018) on page 28 under “In Vivo Infection of Human ACE2 Expressing Mice with SARSr-Cov S Protein variants”, it appears to be showing the results from their gain of function experiments as described in the SF 424. This is more of less the same as the question above, but do you know where this occurred? These are not the results of GoF experiments. The figure you reference (Fig 35) shows weight loss and lung viral titers of chimeric viruses with bat CoV (wild type WIV-1, SHC014, WIV16, and 4231) spike proteins expressed on the WIV-1 backbone. Weight loss and viral titers were comparable across all chimeras when compared to the wild type (Fig 35a, red series; Fig 35b small box pattern). There are no statistical differences reported, so the chimeric viruses have not gained any function/attribute they did not already exhibit. From: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:04 PM To: Stemmy, Erik (NIH/NIAID) [E] @nih.gov>; Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Hi Erik, Thank you for providing this information. We would like to set up a call with the agent as they may need additional context or have other questions. Would you be available next Tuesday around 11:30AM? I’ll set up a conference line for us and send an invite. If that time doesn’t work for you, please let me know alternative times you have available. Thank you, Ashley From: Stemmy, Erik (NIH/NIAID) [E] @nih.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 11:22 AM To: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov>; Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Hi Ashley, I would be happy to answer questions related to this award. Would it be best if I just addressed the comments at the end of this email thread? I’ll say generally that NIAID has an extensive review process for P3CO (and formerly for GoF) and that all of this work was formally evaluated by the respective committees and determined not to be gain-of-function, nor subject to P3CO oversight. We also continually monitored the progress (until the award was terminated) for evidence of unexpected increases in viral replication. Erik Erik J. Stemmy, Ph.D. Program Officer Respiratory Diseases Branch Division of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases NIAID/NIH/HHS 5601 Fishers Lane, Room 8E18 Bethesda, MD 20892-9825 Phone: Email: @nih.gov From: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:17 AM To: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov>; Stemmy, Erik (NIH/NIAID) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Hi Ashley, The Program Official for this grant, Dr. Stemmy, who is copied on this email, would be the most appropriate POC for these questions. Regards, Emily From: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:00 PM To: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Importance: High Good afternoon, We are following up on a time-sensitive request for information from the FBI. Please let us know if you are able to accommodate their request or if you can recommend a POC to address the concerns. Thank you, Ashley From: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:59 AM To: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Importance: High Good afternoon Emily, OMA/DPI received questions related to an FBI inquiry for the following NIAID grants: 1R01AI110964-01 through 2R01AI110964-06. The agent is requesting clarification on the details of the study, where certain aspects were performed, and whether seamless cloning techniques were used. I note you were the last official to sign off on 4/27/20. Would you be able to provide a response to the below-captured questions and/or be available for a joint call with our office and the agent? If not, who would be the best SME on this matter? I’m sure you understand, since this is a sensitive matter, we need to maintain confidentiality and limit the touch-points within NIH. I’m happy to discuss further if you have any questions. Thank you, Ashley Ashley M. Sanders, MPS Senior Program Investigations Officer NIH, OMA, Division Program Integrity 6011 Executive Blvd. Rockville, Maryland 20852 Office: @nih.gov FBI Questions: SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) Both SF 424s seem to be describing “gain of function” experiments. On page 192 of SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) under P3CO Research, it indicates they are conducting gain of function of SARSr-CoV. Were they also conducting Seemless Cloining and Assembly? From a review of their experimental details, it looks as if they were generating recombinant DNA of the viruses using WIV1 as the backbone but I could not determine if they were using Seemless Cloning techniques. I could not determine exactly where they were conducting these gain of function experiments. I know UNC-Chapel Hill has done these but within the document, I could not determine where this was occurring. Do you know where this was occurring? It then appears that the recombinant DNA of the virus was then injected into humanized mice. However, again I couldn’t determine where this occurred or was to occur. On page 187 of the same SF 424 under “Vertebrate Animals” it indicates that work with vertebrate animals will be conducted at Wuhan University at the School of Medicine and UNC – CH. Then under “Laboratory Mice” it states that lab mice will be sourced commercially by Wuhan Center for Animal Experiment at Wuhan University and that humanized mice will be bread at University of Wuhan and UNC – CH. Furthermore, the mice will be inoculated with the virus. Under “UNC Facilities where selected agents to be used” it continues with all mouse studies at UNC-CH will be performed….” However, on page 200 of the same SF 424 there is a letter from UNC – CH stating “The work to be performed by UNC-CH does not include animal and/or human research subjects.” I know that was a lot of information but where exactly was the experimentation of injecting the humanized mice with the recombinant DNA occurring? SF 424 AI110964-01 (received date 06/05/2013) In this SF 424 Aim 3 seems indicative of gain of function experimentation (C3a and C3b) although it does not use that exact term. On page 119 of AI110964-01 under “C3d) Humanized mouse in vivo infection experiments” it states that humanized mouse in vivo experiments in humanized mice was occurring at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I did not see the location where these gain of function experiments were being done but if the injections were occurring at WIV then was the recombinant DNA also generated at WIV? Was Seemless Cloning also being done? RPPR (AI110964-05) Finally, in the RPPR (6/1/2017-5/31/2018) on page 28 under “In Vivo Infection of Human ACE2 Expressing Mice with SARSr-Cov S Protein variants”, it appears to be showing the results from their gain of function experiments as described in the SF 424. This is more of less the same as the question above, but do you know where this occurred?
5 quoted messages inside this reply
Ashley Sanders· RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 -Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:04 PM
Erik Stemmy· RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 -Thursday, May 21, 2020 11:22 AM
Emily Linde· RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 -Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:17 AM
Ashley Sanders· RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 -Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:00 PM
Ashley Sanders· Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-RWednesday, May 13, 2020 11:59 AM
Reading Roompp. 7–11also at pp. 230–234Reading-Room-FINAL.pdf
DOCXSF_424_AI110964.docxFilename only — not released
RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06Thu, 21 May 2020 11:22:11 -0400Full thread
Erik Stemmy
Hi Ashley, I would be happy to answer questions related to this award. Would it be best if I just addressed the comments at the end of this email thread? I’ll say generally that NIAID has an extensive review process for P3CO (and formerly for GoF) and that all of this work was formally evaluated by the respective committees and determined not to be gain-of-function, nor subject to P3CO oversight. We also continually monitored the progress (until the award was terminated) for evidence of unexpected increases in viral replication. Erik Erik J. Stemmy, Ph.D. Program Officer Respiratory Diseases Branch Division of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases NIAID/NIH/HHS 5601 Fishers Lane, Room 8E18 Bethesda, MD 20892-9825 Phone: Email: @nih.gov From: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:17 AM To: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov>; Stemmy, Erik (NIH/NIAID) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Hi Ashley, The Program Official for this grant, Dr. Stemmy, who is copied on this email, would be the most appropriate POC for these questions. Regards, Emily From: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:00 PM To: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Importance: High Good afternoon, We are following up on a time-sensitive request for information from the FBI. Please let us know if you are able to accommodate their request or if you can recommend a POC to address the concerns. Thank you, Ashley From: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:59 AM To: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Importance: High Good afternoon Emily, OMA/DPI received questions related to an FBI inquiry for the following NIAID grants: 1R01AI110964-01 through 2R01AI110964-06. The agent is requesting clarification on the details of the study, where certain aspects were performed, and whether seamless cloning techniques were used. I note you were the last official to sign off on 4/27/20. Would you be able to provide a response to the below-captured questions and/or be available for a joint call with our office and the agent? If not, who would be the best SME on this matter? I’m sure you understand, since this is a sensitive matter, we need to maintain confidentiality and limit the touch-points within NIH. I’m happy to discuss further if you have any questions. Thank you, Ashley Ashley M. Sanders, MPS Senior Program Investigations Officer NIH, OMA, Division Program Integrity 6011 Executive Blvd. Rockville, Maryland 20852 Office: @nih.gov FBI Questions: SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) Both SF 424s seem to be describing “gain of function” experiments. On page 192 of SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) under P3CO Research, it indicates they are conducting gain of function of SARSr-CoV. Were they also conducting Seemless Cloining and Assembly? From a review of their experimental details, it looks as if they were generating recombinant DNA of the viruses using WIV1 as the backbone but I could not determine if they were using Seemless Cloning techniques. I could not determine exactly where they were conducting these gain of function experiments. I know UNC-Chapel Hill has done these but within the document, I could not determine where this was occurring. Do you know where this was occurring? It then appears that the recombinant DNA of the virus was then injected into humanized mice. However, again I couldn’t determine where this occurred or was to occur. On page 187 of the same SF 424 under “Vertebrate Animals” it indicates that work with vertebrate animals will be conducted at Wuhan University at the School of Medicine and UNC – CH. Then under “Laboratory Mice” it states that lab mice will be sourced commercially by Wuhan Center for Animal Experiment at Wuhan University and that humanized mice will be bread at University of Wuhan and UNC – CH. Furthermore, the mice will be inoculated with the virus. Under “UNC Facilities where selected agents to be used” it continues with all mouse studies at UNC-CH will be performed….” However, on page 200 of the same SF 424 there is a letter from UNC – CH stating “The work to be performed by UNC-CH does not include animal and/or human research subjects.” I know that was a lot of information but where exactly was the experimentation of injecting the humanized mice with the recombinant DNA occurring? SF 424 AI110964-01 (received date 06/05/2013) In this SF 424 Aim 3 seems indicative of gain of function experimentation (C3a and C3b) although it does not use that exact term. On page 119 of AI110964-01 under “C3d) Humanized mouse in vivo infection experiments” it states that humanized mouse in vivo experiments in humanized mice was occurring at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I did not see the location where these gain of function experiments were being done but if the injections were occurring at WIV then was the recombinant DNA also generated at WIV? Was Seemless Cloning also being done? RPPR (AI110964-05) Finally, in the RPPR (6/1/2017-5/31/2018) on page 28 under “In Vivo Infection of Human ACE2 Expressing Mice with SARSr-Cov S Protein variants”, it appears to be showing the results from their gain of function experiments as described in the SF 424. This is more of less the same as the question above, but do you know where this occurred?
3 quoted messages inside this reply
Emily Linde· RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 -Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:17 AM
Ashley Sanders· RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 -Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:00 PM
Ashley Sanders· Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-RWednesday, May 13, 2020 11:59 AM
Reading Roompp. 12–14also at pp. 235–237Reading-Room-FINAL.pdf
RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06Thu, 21 May 2020 17:49:51 -0400Full thread
Erik Stemmy
Hi Ashley, Since we’ll only have a short time on Tuesday I thought it might be helpful to provide the agent my responses to the original questions. There may be some misunderstanding of gain-of-function experiments, so hopefully this will clarify some things or at least provide a framework for our discussion next week. Thanks! Erik p.s. I’ve also pasted the response directly below in case there is an issue adding an attachment to an encrypted message. SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) Both SF 424s seem to be describing “gain of function” experiments. On page 192 of SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) under P3CO Research, it indicates they are conducting gain of function of SARSr-CoV. The funding pause on gain-of-function (GoF) experiments was in place from 2014-2017, and explicitly involved work reasonably anticipated to enhance the transmissibility or pathogenicity of influenza, MERS-CoV, or SARS-CoV. As such, that policy would not have applied to SARS-related coronaviruses (SARSr-CoV). The replacement policy, Potential Pandemic Pathogen Care and Oversight (P3CO), requires additional review and oversight of experiments that are anticipated to increase a potential pandemic pathogen’s transmissibility or pathogenicity in humans. The viruses created under this award are chimeric bat viruses, which generally would not be anticipated to cause enhanced disease or transmission in people. When evaluating experiments for potential GoF or P3CO we determine the likelihood of altering one of these attributes compared to the wild-type or circulating viral strain. Were they also conducting Seemless Cloining and Assembly? From a review of their experimental details, it looks as if they were generating recombinant DNA of the viruses using WIV1 as the backbone but I could not determine if they were using Seemless Cloning techniques. I’m not aware of them using seamless cloning. Standard techniques for investigators in this field are to create cDNA molecular clones, which are then expressed in cull culture. I could not determine exactly where they were conducting these gain of function experiments. I know UNC-Chapel Hill has done these but within the document, I could not determine where this was occurring. Do you know where this was occurring? GoF experiments were not conducted as part of this award. While chimeric viruses were created via this award, they would not be considered GoF since the results did not confer attributes that were not already exhibited by the wild type versions of the viruses. For example, expressing the spike protein of SARS-CoV in the WIV-1 backbone did not increase the pathogenicity of WIV-1 beyond that of SARS-CoV. This award did not support work to manipulate CoV genomes or create chimeric viruses at Wuhan Institute of Virology; such work was performed at UNC-CH. It then appears that the recombinant DNA of the virus was then injected into humanized mice. However, again I couldn’t determine where this occurred or was to occur. On page 187 of the same SF 424 under “Vertebrate Animals” it indicates that work with vertebrate animals will be conducted at Wuhan University at the School of Medicine and UNC – CH. Then under “Laboratory Mice” it states that lab mice will be sourced commercially by Wuhan Center for Animal Experiment at Wuhan University and that humanized mice will be bread at University of Wuhan and UNC – CH. Furthermore, the mice will be inoculated with the virus. Recombinant viral cDNA is not directly injected into humanized mice. Rather, these molecular clones are used to grow virus in culture to create an inoculum used in infectivity studies. Both WIV and UNC-CH performed studies with molecular clones, which included infecting mice with the resulting recombinant viruses. Under “UNC Facilities where selected agents to be used” it continues with all mouse studies at UNC-CH will be performed….” However, on page 200 of the same SF 424 there is a letter from UNC – CH stating “The work to be performed by UNC-CH does not include animal and/or human research subjects.” I know that was a lot of information but where exactly was the experimentation of injecting the humanized mice with the recombinant DNA occurring? I believe this to be a typographical error on the part of UNC’s business office. The application describes animal work at UNC. Budget justifications and the consortium agreement also include references to this work. I believe UNC mean to say that the work “… does not include human research subjects.” SF 424 AI110964-01 (received date 06/05/2013) In this SF 424 Aim 3 seems indicative of gain of function experimentation (C3a and C3b) although it does not use that exact term. The receipt date of this application was June of 2013, and the term “gain-of-function” was not widely used before the USG funding pause was announced in 2014. C3a and C3b describe work using pseudovirus assays, which would not have been considered GoF as they do not involve creating full replicating viruses. On page 119 of AI110964-01 under “C3d) Humanized mouse in vivo infection experiments” it states that humanized mouse in vivo experiments in humanized mice was occurring at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I did not see the location where these gain of function experiments were being done but if the injections were occurring at WIV then was the recombinant DNA also generated at WIV? Was Seemless Cloning also being done? This is not GoF work. The humanized mouse experiments described in C3d refer to work with wild type viruses isolated from wild bats. Refer to the section stating: “We will passage isolated bat-CoVs in permissive cells twice…” This is a standard virological technique to create an inoculum to infect animals. In no portion of C3d do they describe any manipulation of isolated virus, therefore this does not describe any kind of gain-of-function studies, nor does it involve the creation of any recombinant DNA or viruses. Characterization of naturally occurring viruses was explicitly excluded from the GoF policy. Further, the USG P3CO Policy Guidance states that “Wild-type pathogens that are circulating in or have been recovered from nature are not enhanced PPPs, regardless of their pandemic potential.” RPPR (AI110964-05) Finally, in the RPPR (6/1/2017-5/31/2018) on page 28 under “In Vivo Infection of Human ACE2 Expressing Mice with SARSr-Cov S Protein variants”, it appears to be showing the results from their gain of function experiments as described in the SF 424. This is more of less the same as the question above, but do you know where this occurred? These are not the results of GoF experiments. The figure you reference (Fig 35) shows weight loss and lung viral titers of chimeric viruses with bat CoV (wild type WIV-1, SHC014, WIV16, and 4231) spike proteins expressed on the WIV-1 backbone. Weight loss and viral titers were comparable across all chimeras when compared to the wild type (Fig 35a, red series; Fig 35b small box pattern). There are no statistical differences reported, so the chimeric viruses have not gained any function/attribute they did not already exhibit. From: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:04 PM To: Stemmy, Erik (NIH/NIAID) [E] @nih.gov>; Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Hi Erik, Thank you for providing this information. We would like to set up a call with the agent as they may need additional context or have other questions. Would you be available next Tuesday around 11:30AM? I’ll set up a conference line for us and send an invite. If that time doesn’t work for you, please let me know alternative times you have available. Thank you, Ashley From: Stemmy, Erik (NIH/NIAID) [E] @nih.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 11:22 AM To: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov>; Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Hi Ashley, I would be happy to answer questions related to this award. Would it be best if I just addressed the comments at the end of this email thread? I’ll say generally that NIAID has an extensive review process for P3CO (and formerly for GoF) and that all of this work was formally evaluated by the respective committees and determined not to be gain-of-function, nor subject to P3CO oversight. We also continually monitored the progress (until the award was terminated) for evidence of unexpected increases in viral replication. Erik Erik J. Stemmy, Ph.D. Program Officer Respiratory Diseases Branch Division of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases NIAID/NIH/HHS 5601 Fishers Lane, Room 8E18 Bethesda, MD 20892-9825 Phone: Email: @nih.gov From: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 6:17 AM To: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov>; Stemmy, Erik (NIH/NIAID) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Hi Ashley, The Program Official for this grant, Dr. Stemmy, who is copied on this email, would be the most appropriate POC for these questions. Regards, Emily From: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:00 PM To: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Importance: High Good afternoon, We are following up on a time-sensitive request for information from the FBI. Please let us know if you are able to accommodate their request or if you can recommend a POC to address the concerns. Thank you, Ashley From: Sanders, Ashley (NIH/OD) [E] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:59 AM To: Linde, Emily (NIH/NIAID) [E] @mail.nih.gov> Cc: Shannon, Mike (NIH/OD) [E] @nih.gov> Subject: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 - 2-R01AI110964-06 Importance: High Good afternoon Emily, OMA/DPI received questions related to an FBI inquiry for the following NIAID grants: 1R01AI110964-01 through 2R01AI110964-06. The agent is requesting clarification on the details of the study, where certain aspects were performed, and whether seamless cloning techniques were used. I note you were the last official to sign off on 4/27/20. Would you be able to provide a response to the below-captured questions and/or be available for a joint call with our office and the agent? If not, who would be the best SME on this matter? I’m sure you understand, since this is a sensitive matter, we need to maintain confidentiality and limit the touch-points within NIH. I’m happy to discuss further if you have any questions. Thank you, Ashley Ashley M. Sanders, MPS Senior Program Investigations Officer NIH, OMA, Division Program Integrity 6011 Executive Blvd. Rockville, Maryland 20852 Office: @nih.gov FBI Questions: SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) Both SF 424s seem to be describing “gain of function” experiments. On page 192 of SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) under P3CO Research, it indicates they are conducting gain of function of SARSr-CoV. Were they also conducting Seemless Cloining and Assembly? From a review of their experimental details, it looks as if they were generating recombinant DNA of the viruses using WIV1 as the backbone but I could not determine if they were using Seemless Cloning techniques. I could not determine exactly where they were conducting these gain of function experiments. I know UNC-Chapel Hill has done these but within the document, I could not determine where this was occurring. Do you know where this was occurring? It then appears that the recombinant DNA of the virus was then injected into humanized mice. However, again I couldn’t determine where this occurred or was to occur. On page 187 of the same SF 424 under “Vertebrate Animals” it indicates that work with vertebrate animals will be conducted at Wuhan University at the School of Medicine and UNC – CH. Then under “Laboratory Mice” it states that lab mice will be sourced commercially by Wuhan Center for Animal Experiment at Wuhan University and that humanized mice will be bread at University of Wuhan and UNC – CH. Furthermore, the mice will be inoculated with the virus. Under “UNC Facilities where selected agents to be used” it continues with all mouse studies at UNC-CH will be performed….” However, on page 200 of the same SF 424 there is a letter from UNC – CH stating “The work to be performed by UNC-CH does not include animal and/or human research subjects.” I know that was a lot of information but where exactly was the experimentation of injecting the humanized mice with the recombinant DNA occurring? SF 424 AI110964-01 (received date 06/05/2013) In this SF 424 Aim 3 seems indicative of gain of function experimentation (C3a and C3b) although it does not use that exact term. On page 119 of AI110964-01 under “C3d) Humanized mouse in vivo infection experiments” it states that humanized mouse in vivo experiments in humanized mice was occurring at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I did not see the location where these gain of function experiments were being done but if the injections were occurring at WIV then was the recombinant DNA also generated at WIV? Was Seemless Cloning also being done? RPPR (AI110964-05) Finally, in the RPPR (6/1/2017-5/31/2018) on page 28 under “In Vivo Infection of Human ACE2 Expressing Mice with SARSr-Cov S Protein variants”, it appears to be showing the results from their gain of function experiments as described in the SF 424. This is more of less the same as the question above, but do you know where this occurred? SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) Both SF 424s seem to be describing “gain of function” experiments. On page 192 of SF 424 AI110964-06 (received date 11/05/2018) under P3CO Research, it indicates they are conducting gain of function of SARSr-CoV. The funding pause on gain-of-function (GoF) experiments was in place from 2014-2017, and explicitly involved work reasonably anticipated to enhance the transmissibility or pathogenicity of influenza, MERS-CoV, or SARS-CoV. As such, that policy would not have applied to SARS-related coronaviruses (SARSr-CoV). The replacement policy, Potential Pandemic Pathogen Care and Oversight (P3CO), requires additional review and oversight of experiments that are anticipated to increase a potential pandemic pathogen’s transmissibility or pathogenicity in humans. The viruses created under this award are chimeric bat viruses, which generally would not be anticipated to cause enhanced disease or transmission in people. When evaluating experiments for potential GoF or P3CO we determine the likelihood of altering one of these attributes compared to the wild-type or circulating viral strain. Were they also conducting Seemless Cloining and Assembly? From a review of their experimental details, it looks as if they were generating recombinant DNA of the viruses using WIV1 as the backbone but I could not determine if they were using Seemless Cloning techniques. I’m not aware of them using seamless cloning. Standard techniques for investigators in this field are to create cDNA molecular clones, which are then expressed in cull culture. I could not determine exactly where they were conducting these gain of function experiments. I know UNC-Chapel Hill has done these but within the document, I could not determine where this was occurring. Do you know where this was occurring? GoF experiments were not conducted as part of this award. While chimeric viruses were created via this award, they would not be considered GoF since the results did not confer attributes that were not already exhibited by the wild type versions of the viruses. For example, expressing the spike protein of SARS-CoV in the WIV-1 backbone did not increase the pathogenicity of WIV-1 beyond that of SARS-CoV. This award did not support work to manipulate CoV genomes or create chimeric viruses at Wuhan Institute of Virology; such work was performed at UNC-CH. It then appears that the recombinant DNA of the virus was then injected into humanized mice. However, again I couldn’t determine where this occurred or was to occur. On page 187 of the same SF 424 under “Vertebrate Animals” it indicates that work with vertebrate animals will be conducted at Wuhan University at the School of Medicine and UNC – CH. Then under “Laboratory Mice” it states that lab mice will be sourced commercially by Wuhan Center for Animal Experiment at Wuhan University and that humanized mice will be bread at University of Wuhan and UNC – CH. Furthermore, the mice will be inoculated with the virus. Recombinant viral cDNA is not directly injected into humanized mice. Rather, these molecular clones are used to grow virus in culture to create an inoculum used in infectivity studies. Both WIV and UNC- CH performed studies with molecular clones, which included infecting mice with the resulting recombinant viruses. Under “UNC Facilities where selected agents to be used” it continues with all mouse studies at UNC-CH will be performed….” However, on page 200 of the same SF 424 there is a letter from UNC – CH stating “The work to be performed by UNC-CH does not include animal and/or human research subjects.” I know that was a lot of information but where exactly was the experimentation of injecting the humanized mice with the recombinant DNA occurring? I believe this to be a typographical error on the part of UNC’s business office. The application describes animal work at UNC. Budget justifications and the consortium agreement also include references to this work. I believe UNC mean to say that the work “… does not include human research subjects.” SF 424 AI110964-01 (received date 06/05/2013) In this SF 424 Aim 3 seems indicative of gain of function experimentation (C3a and C3b) although it does not use that exact term. The receipt date of this application was June of 2013, and the term “gain-of-function” was not widely used before the USG funding pause was announced in 2014. C3a and C3b describe work using pseudovirus assays, which would not have been considered GoF as they do not involve creating full replicating viruses. On page 119 of AI110964-01 under “C3d) Humanized mouse in vivo infection experiments” it states that humanized mouse in vivo experiments in humanized mice was occurring at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I did not see the location where these gain of function experiments were being done but if the injections were occurring at WIV then was the recombinant DNA also generated at WIV? Was Seemless Cloning also being done? This is not GoF work. The humanized mouse experiments described in C3d refer to work with wild type viruses isolated from wild bats. Refer to the section stating: “We will passage isolated bat-CoVs in permissive cells twice…” This is a standard virological technique to create an inoculum to infect animals. In no portion of C3d do they describe any manipulation of isolated virus, therefore this does not describe any kind of gain-of-function studies, nor does it involve the creation of any recombinant DNA or viruses. Characterization of naturally occurring viruses was explicitly excluded from the GoF policy. Further, the USG P3CO Policy Guidance states that “Wild-type pathogens that are circulating in or have been recovered from nature are not enhanced PPPs, regardless of their pandemic potential.” RPPR (AI110964-05) Finally, in the RPPR (6/1/2017-5/31/2018) on page 28 under “In Vivo Infection of Human ACE2 Expressing Mice with SARSr-Cov S Protein variants”, it appears to be showing the results from their gain of function experiments as described in the SF 424. This is more of less the same as the question above, but do you know where this occurred? These are not the results of GoF experiments. The figure you reference (Fig 35) shows weight loss and lung viral titers of chimeric viruses with bat CoV (wild type WIV-1, SHC014, WIV16, and 4231) spike proteins expressed on the WIV-1 backbone. Weight loss and viral titers were comparable across all chimeras when compared to the wild type (Fig 35a, red series; Fig 35b small box pattern). There are no statistical differences reported, so the chimeric viruses have not gained any function/attribute they did not already exhibit. Page Image Missing #26590074.1
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Ashley Sanders· RE: Grant Questions - FBI Inquiry - 1-R01AI110964-01 -Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:04 PM
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